Comments on: The End Game – 17 April 2008 http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/the-end-game-17-april-2008/ Heading for Euroa after 10 years in Whitfield Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:23:50 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Greg Naylor http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/the-end-game-17-april-2008/#comment-840 Greg Naylor Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:20:06 +0000 http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/?p=182#comment-840 Dave, you sound just like your mother! :? You may be right, and I am questioning all that at the moment. That's why I am questioning the stuff about Neville and Cheryl. Dave, you sound just like your mother! :?

You may be right, and I am questioning all that at the moment. That’s why I am questioning the stuff about Neville and Cheryl.

]]> By: David Naylor http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/the-end-game-17-april-2008/#comment-839 David Naylor Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:54:51 +0000 http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/?p=182#comment-839 Hi Dad, RE YOUR COMMENT: "I have steadfastly refused to accept the para-normal, astrology, clairvoyants and all that stuff because if they are for real and our lives are pre-determined, we cannot have ‘free choice’." Why does it have to be all or nothing? Could it be that we are influenced both by our free choice (conscious and unconscious) AND external factors - tangible (eg. food, weather, people) and intangible (the greater mysteries beyond our direct perception)? Dave. Hi Dad,

RE YOUR COMMENT: “I have steadfastly refused to accept the para-normal, astrology, clairvoyants and all that stuff because if they are for real and our lives are pre-determined, we cannot have ‘free choice’.”

Why does it have to be all or nothing? Could it be that we are influenced both by our free choice (conscious and unconscious) AND external factors – tangible (eg. food, weather, people) and intangible (the greater mysteries beyond our direct perception)?

Dave.

]]> By: raydixon http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/the-end-game-17-april-2008/#comment-831 raydixon Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:04:50 +0000 http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/?p=182#comment-831 That's not what I meant AWOL, I meant Greg seems to be facing things so counselling seems unnecessary. That’s not what I meant AWOL, I meant Greg seems to be facing things so counselling seems unnecessary.

]]> By: Greg Naylor http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/the-end-game-17-april-2008/#comment-828 Greg Naylor Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:09:24 +0000 http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/?p=182#comment-828 Nearly 20 years ago, I did a course on counseling coming away with feeling that it was about rationalisation rather than dealing with the reality. I think I am probably better off sharing my thoughts on this blog with family and friends like you guys whilst you are prepared to listen. You are my counsellors! Dealing with someone in my position is a bit like being a grandparent - you play with the kids but if it gets too much, you give them back to mum and dad. When you are the subject of this deal, it is full on and it becomes your life. Even carers are entitled to 'respite leave' :) Nearly 20 years ago, I did a course on counseling coming away with feeling that it was about rationalisation rather than dealing with the reality. I think I am probably better off sharing my thoughts on this blog with family and friends like you guys whilst you are prepared to listen. You are my counsellors!

Dealing with someone in my position is a bit like being a grandparent – you play with the kids but if it gets too much, you give them back to mum and dad. When you are the subject of this deal, it is full on and it becomes your life. Even carers are entitled to ‘respite leave’ :)

]]> By: alburywodongaonline http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/the-end-game-17-april-2008/#comment-827 alburywodongaonline Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:27:43 +0000 http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/?p=182#comment-827 odd you'd consider counselling and facing things to be mutually exclusive Ray. odd you’d consider counselling and facing things to be mutually exclusive Ray.

]]> By: raydixon http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/the-end-game-17-april-2008/#comment-826 raydixon Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:45:37 +0000 http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/?p=182#comment-826 There's nothing nutty or disturbing about that to me Greg. We all experience things we can't explain. As for the question you pose in the last paragraph, well someone who has lost people so close to them like you have is bound to be affected by those experiences and the conversations & dreams could just be symptomatic of that. But if they're signs from the afterlife (if one exists) then they don't sound too bad. I imagine it would be nice to have a 19 or 20 year old waiting for you on "the other side" ... and to see your brothers. I'm not sure what "counselling" would achieve though. You seem to be facing things as well as can be expected. Cheers. There’s nothing nutty or disturbing about that to me Greg. We all experience things we can’t explain.

As for the question you pose in the last paragraph, well someone who has lost people so close to them like you have is bound to be affected by those experiences and the conversations & dreams could just be symptomatic of that.

But if they’re signs from the afterlife (if one exists) then they don’t sound too bad. I imagine it would be nice to have a 19 or 20 year old waiting for you on “the other side” … and to see your brothers.

I’m not sure what “counselling” would achieve though. You seem to be facing things as well as can be expected. Cheers.

]]> By: alburywodongaonline http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/the-end-game-17-april-2008/#comment-825 alburywodongaonline Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:15:35 +0000 http://kingvalley.wordpress.com/?p=182#comment-825 Greg it sounds like your sub-conscious mind is screaming something at you to me. What, I have no idea. I certainly don't think you are a nut, far from it in fact, the notion of one's pending mortality throws up all kinds of things for all of us, it's part of the human condition I believe. The sub-conscious mind is an intensely powerful thing, did you know a lot of para-normal psychologist type folks even attribute poltergeist activity to the sub-conscious mind effecting the physical environment? I like to think I keep an open mind about the possibility of the afterlife and I certainly claim to know nothing, but it doesn't sound to me like you are being "haunted", rather it sounds like your subconscious reacting to the most terrifying reality any of us will ever have to face, the possibility of our own demise. Has anyone spoken to you about counselling? I think it's maybe a sensible and wise way for you to make productive sense of what must be at times an overwhelming amount of stimulation from your sub-conscious mind. Greg it sounds like your sub-conscious mind is screaming something at you to me. What, I have no idea.
I certainly don’t think you are a nut, far from it in fact, the notion of one’s pending mortality throws up all kinds of things for all of us, it’s part of the human condition I believe.
The sub-conscious mind is an intensely powerful thing, did you know a lot of para-normal psychologist type folks even attribute poltergeist activity to the sub-conscious mind effecting the physical environment?
I like to think I keep an open mind about the possibility of the afterlife and I certainly claim to know nothing, but it doesn’t sound to me like you are being “haunted”, rather it sounds like your subconscious reacting to the most terrifying reality any of us will ever have to face, the possibility of our own demise.
Has anyone spoken to you about counselling? I think it’s maybe a sensible and wise way for you to make productive sense of what must be at times an overwhelming amount of stimulation from your sub-conscious mind.

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